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SKY NEWS – EU: IN OR OUT? DEBATE 2.06.16 – 8 p.m.
PART TWO: Q&A WITH DAVID CAMERON

KAYE BURLEY: Now the Prime Minister has been interviewed by Faisal Islam and now it’s the turn of our studio audience to put their questions to him.  If you want to get even closer to the action, we are recording the whole thing in 360 with this very special panoramic camera, more about that on Facebook.  Are you ready Prime Minister?  Here we go, Jacqueline Smith to start with.  Jacqueline you have a question for us and you are retired.

JACQUELINE SMITH: I am, thank you, Kaye.  Good evening Mr Cameron.  When I was 20 I voted to join the Common Market but now I really regret that because it is not something I actually voted for so if the UK wasn’t in the EU would you apply to join now and why?

DAVID CAMERON: Jacqueline, I totally understand where you come from, thinking it has changed a lot from a Common Market.  It has changed and that is one of the reasons I think it is right to hold this referendum but to answer you very directly, if I was offered the terms that Britain has I would accept them because our membership is very different from anybody else’s.  We have a special status in this organisation and I would argue we have the best of both worlds.  We’re in that single market I’ve been talking about, 500 million people, vital for our business and jobs but we’re not in the euro, we’ve kept our own currency and we can keep it for as long as we like.  We’re not in the Schengen no borders zone, we’ve maintained our border controls, we can stop people at our borders and question them and yet we have the right to live and work and travel all the way round Europe without visas or work permits or anything else.  Also in my renegotiation I got us out of that clause that none of us had ever really liked to say that we want to have an ever closer union.  So I’ve enhanced our special status with real protections for Britain, in the bits we want to be principally the single market but out of the bits we don’t like, like the eurozone and the no border zone, so on that basis yes.  If I were offered the terms of another country, well that would be a different matter but Britain’s terms are right for Britain and I think we should stay in.

KB: So just to clarify, Prime Minister, you would want to join if we weren’t members already?

DAVID CAMERON: I would join on British terms.  Our special status in the single market – I keep going on about the single market but it is so important, we are a trading nation, we need our goods and services to be able to be sold in that market of 500 million people and if we leave, if we walk away we will get less good terms.  That means we would have fewer jobs, we’d have a smaller economy and that would affect everyone watching this programme and people at home too.  

KB: If we were to join, we’d have to join the euro, you’d be happy to do that?

DAVID CAMERON: No, of course not, I never want us to join the euro.  I answered the question very directly, if we were offered British terms, what we have now with my renegotiation, the special status we have now, I would join.  I would never have Britain join the euro, I’ve never believed in us joining the euro, we’re the fifth biggest economy in the world, we should keep our own currency the pound and again, in my renegotiation I managed to secure for us the fact that we can keep our currency for as long as we like, we can never be asked to bail out eurozone countries and crucially, they cannot discriminate against the pound, against our currency.  I’ll tell you very briefly why this matters so much – 7% of our economy is financial services, two-thirds of those jobs outside London.  It’s really important for us that we can do euro business, dollar business, every sort of business in all our financial institutions.  Inside the eurozone they can’t stop us doing that.  If we were outside the EU then they might easily say, well the eurozone business now has to happen in a eurozone country, we’d be discriminated against.  Out of the single market … I think that would be terrible mistake and I don't think there is any prospect of … well you’d be able to stop it sir and I’ll tell you why.  No, no, you would, hold on.  Under what I passed when I first became Prime Minister back in 2010, we have a referendum lock.  Any powers passed from Britain to Brussels have to be put to a referendum of the British people so Labour could not join or no other government could join the euro without asking the British people in a referendum and this goes to a very important point because you’ll hear people say what are the risks of staying?  I don't think they are big risks of staying because you can’t transfer further powers from Britain to Brussels without asking the British people first in a referendum because of a law that we passed so I say stay in for the trade, for the jobs, for the livelihoods of the British people, everyone watching at home tonight but stay in with Britain’s special status.  

KB: Okay, let’s …

DAVID CAMERON: The lady here is saying that most of the countries in the EU … I accept that some of the countries, you are absolutely right …

KB: Okay, what we are going to do guys is we are probably going to come back to that later and …

DAVID CAMERON: Can I just answer that one?  You are absolutely right, some countries in Europe are having a difficult time and some of that is because of the euro and I don’t support the euro, I’d never have Britain join the euro but let’s be frank about this thing that we’re a member of, this single market.  It is the biggest single market in the world, it is bigger than the Chinese economy, it is bigger than the American economy, it enables us to drive trade deals that are good for British business and in the end that’s what we should be thinking about – how do we get jobs, how do we get growth, how do we make sure our young people have real opportunities in our country?  Leaving the single market would be an act of economic self-harm for Britain and we absolutely shouldn’t do it.

KB: We are going to have to move on and let’s bring in Soraya Bouazzaoui and Soraya has just finished an English Lit degree at Southampton and has applied to do a Masters, good for you Soraya.  

SORAYA BOUAZZAOUI: Hi there, I come from a family of Islamic Moroccan migrants and because of that we have the advantage of seeing news coverage in terms of politics and economy from both the Western media and the Middle Eastern media and I do want to point out that I have been strongly wanting to vote in to the EU but to be honest the entire campaign has been a complete shambles, I’ve seen nothing but scaremongering, I’ve seen no valid facts at all, I’ve seen no pros and cons.  Everything that I’ve seen has just made voting into the EU look worse and what I also find interesting is that we haven’t even addressed the fact that Turkey becoming … wanting, sorry, ever closer union with the EU when they are under such heavy accusation by the entire Middle East … how can you reassure us of staying in the EU and saying that there are no risks when there are clear risks, especially when it comes to ISIS, especially when you have turned away so many refugees over fear of having the extremists and are willing to work with the Turkish government that had a brawl in the parliament two weeks ago.  

DAVID CAMERON: Let me take two issues you raise there, and quite right too.  One is the positive case for staying.  I think there is a very positive case, I think we will be better off as a country with more jobs, I think it will keep our country moving forward, I think we’ll be stronger as a country, we’ll get things done in the world whether it is tackling climate change or indeed standing up to Islamist terrorism which we face around the world and I think also we’ll be safer, if we work together, strength in numbers, exchanging information like the threats we face.  Okay, now you asked about Turkey, with Turkey …

SORAYA: No, no, no, let me finish now because I’ve seen you interrupt many people before, let me finish now.  

DAVID CAMERON: Okay, over to you.  I will do Turkey if you want me to do Turkey.

SORAYA: I’m an English Literature student, I know waffling when I see it, okay?  I’m sorry but you have not answered my question.  How can you reassure the people who do want to vote out because I have many friends who want to vote out, that we are safe from extremism when we are willing to work with a government like Turkey who want to be part of the EU?  Like I said, they had the accusation, it’s like Saudi Arabia …

DAVID CAMERON: I’ve got it.  I’ll be really quick on Turkey, there is no prospect of Turkey joining in the EU in decades.  They applied in 1987, they have to complete 35 chapters, one has been completed so far, at this rate they’ll join in the year 3000.  There are lots of reasons to vote one way or vote the other way, Turkey is not going to join the EU any time soon, every country, every parliament has a veto so I think there are lots of things to worry about in this referendum campaign, I absolutely think that is not a prospect, it’s not going to happen.  Should we work with Turkey nonetheless because it is a neighbour country and because we need to do what we can to secure Europe’s borders and deal with the refugee problem and the rest?  Yes, I think we should work with Turkey but that’s not the same as Turkey is going to be a member of the European Union any time soon.  It’s not.  

KB: Thanks very much Soraya, we’re going to have to move on otherwise we’re not going to be able to get other people in.  Alison Chadwick at the front there.

ALISON CHADWICK: Good evening, Prime Minister.  As a former mental health nurse who is now retired from the NHS I am very aware of the continued pressures on our public sector services, I think we’re struggling, I think we’re sinking. How do we deal with the increased demands on our public services given the never ending  it feels like, seemingly never ending stream of people arriving from Europe?

DAVID CAMERON: What we have to do is keep investing in our public services, investing in our NHS…

ALISON: But we’re not, we’re not.

DAVID CAMERON: I’d say the most important thing here is that the worst thing we could do for our NHS is to wreck our economy by taking ourselves out of the single market, that would be very bad for our economy and that is the view of the head of the Royal College of Midwives, the Royal College of Surgeons have come out today very clearly and said we’ll be better off in because it gives a stronger economy to fund the NHS, the head of the NHS Simon Stevens has made the same point, so has the previous head of the NHS.  So I would make that argument, I’d also say it is worth remembering in this debate about movement of people and migration, there are 50,000 European nations, French and Germans and others, working in our NHS as doctors and nurses and care assistants and others and they do a very important job.  So I think if we care about our NHS – and I do – we need a strong economy and that means staying in.  

ALISON: You need to fund it and stop the cuts.  

WOMAN: The NHS is in crisis, you’ve made a right mess of it, it’s time you and your government went.  

DAVID CAMERON: Obviously we can have an argument about whether we are putting enough money into the NHS but what we might be able to agree is that we are never going to have more money to put into the NHS if we shrink our economy by leaving Europe and leaving the single market.  That’s the view that not just I take but I think Jeremy Corbyn would say the same thing – we have an alliance as it were on this issue of Europe, it’s quite an interesting broad coalition of people who think we should stay and includes the Conservative government, the Green Party, the Liberal Democrats, the Trade Union Council.  I don't think you would call the Green Party the Establishment to be fair, I’m not sure you would call Jeremy Corbyn the Establishment to be altogether fair to him.  Look everyone has to make up their own mind, all I’m saying is that a lot of different people with different interests have come together to say whatever our differences are on other subjects, this is a massive issue for our country, for our children, for our grandchildren and so we should think very carefully before leaving something that’s so important for our economy and our situation.  

KB: Let’s bring in Sam who is an aircraft engineer from South Wales.  

SAM: Good evening Prime Minister.  I am an aircraft engineer from South Wales and these past few months have been very worrying for the area due to the uncertainty of the future of the Tata Steel facility in the whole of the UK.  How do you believe UK industries would be better protected if we remain within the European Union?

DAVID CAMERON: If we face specifically on our steel industry, I’d say we are better off if we stay because one of the things we need to do is make sure that when China dumps cheap steel driven from over capacity onto the European market, we take action across Europe, across all 28 countries, all 500 million people, to make sure that that dumping doesn’t take place.  When we have acted recently we have actually seen imports of particular types of steel fall by 95, 98, even 99%.  Now if we were outside the European Union we might find that actually we face some of those tariffs and some of those problems ourselves so I think when it comes to supporting our industries we are actually better working together, we have that power of a block of 500 million people.  I’d also say if we take something like the aircraft industry that you are involved in, Airbus this week, proud British manufacturer, we make the wings and the landing gear of these brilliant planes, they couldn’t be clearer they want us to be in the single market for those jobs, that investment, for that prosperity for our country.  When we look at manufacturing, the head economist backing the Leave campaign has said that it would wipe out manufacturing were we to leave.  I don’t want that for our country, these are well paid jobs and that’s why on this issue the TUC, Frances O’Grady and a Conservative Prime Minister are as one: stay in if we care about manufacturing because that’s the way we are going to support manufacturing jobs and manufacturing exports.

KB: Let’s bring in Denise Simpson, Denise is self-employed from Essex and she is quite angry, aren’t you Denise?

DENISE SIMPSON: Yes, I am.  Hello Prime Minister.  You said that Sadiq Khan wasn’t to be trusted a few weeks ago and a couple of weeks later you appear on a platform with him, isn’t that an example of your hypocrisy and scaremongering over the course of this campaign? [Applause]

DAVID CAMERON: Obviously I don’t think that and I’ll try and convince you why it was the right thing to do.  Look, we had a lively election campaign in London, I think some of the people he chose to share a platform with I didn’t think it was the right choice and I criticised that, questions were asked of him but he was elected by the people of London and I think the right thing for a Prime Minister to do is to work with an elected Mayor of London for the good of the people in London.  There is a lot of stuff we are going to have to do together, let’s try and improve the transport system, let’s make sure we have cleaner air, let’s make sure we have good public services.  Now Sadiq and I disagree about many things, we’ll try and work together but on this issue of Europe we agree.  We think London will be better off, the country will be better off if we stay in and so we buried our differences, put aside the arguments we’d been having and appeared on a platform.  I don't think that’s double standards or any of the rest of it, I think that is actually saying some of these issues are bigger than the politicians.  This is such a big issue for us and it is about the jobs of people in this room and the jobs of people at home, how are we going to secure a strong economy for the future, what is the best we can do when it comes to opportunities for our children, how can we keep our country safe in a dangerous world and Sadiq …

DENISE: Don’t let people in then.  

DAVID CAMERON: Sadiq’s view and my view is that we’ll work together in order to keep Britain in an organisation that can help us to grow and thrive.  

KB: But to Denise’s point, you actually said about the Mayor when he wasn’t Mayor, the man supports IS, is that a grubby comment that you regret now?  

DAVID CAMERON: I certainly didn’t say that about the Mayor, I criticised some of the people that he …

KB: You said that about Mr Khan.  

DAVID CAMERON:  I criticised some of the people that he appeared on a platform with but in politics you have to respect the will of the people, as we will in this referendum.  The people in London voted for a Labour Mayor and I think the responsible thing for a Conservative Prime Minister is to say look, we don’t always agree but where we can work together we should and on this issue, which does frankly create some pretty strange bedfellows, I’ve been out on the stump with Brendan Barber, former head of the TUC, I’ve been shopping with Harriet Harman, I’m appearing on Monday I think with the head of the Green Party.  I’ve been making some new friends I admit but that’s because we have lots of disagreements but on this issue which is so much bigger than any one politician or even group of politicians … and also the politicians, we only get one vote, this is your decision, this is your vote.  Every vote counts the same and if I can find people that agree with me that we should stay, I am happy to appear on a platform with them and talk about it because I want everyone to have the maximum amount of information and arguments to take with them when they make this vital decision for our country.  

MAN: Have you sat down with Jeremy Corbyn and talked about it?

KB: We can’t do shouting out.  

DAVID CAMERON:  I have spoken to him about it.  We haven’t appeared on a platform together, I don't know if that is going to happen, but we do agree about this and Jeremy Corbyn made a very strong speech today saying he thinks that Britain is better off in and so … One gentleman shouted out about the Establishment, I don't think – and you can accuse Jeremy Corbyn of lots of things but I don't think he is part of the Establishment and I think frankly when you have got all these different parties and all these different organisations all saying, look this thing isn’t perfect … I was out on Rainham Marshes today with the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds and World Wildlife Fund saying we think for nature and the environment it is better off to stay in.  So let’s have all these arguments out there and in the end you’ll decide.

KM: We’ve got a question about another former London Mayor, can you guess which one?  

DAVID CAMERON: Ken Livingstone?  

KM: Fiona Kelly would like to pose the question.  Fiona.  

FIONA KELLY: Given recent exchanges over the last few weeks, do you still think Boris Johnson would make a good Prime Minister?  

DAVID CAMERON:  I think Boris is a very talented politician.  He was a great Mayor of London and I’ve always said he has got a huge amount to give to public service and public life.  I don’t get to pick the next Prime Minister, that would be a decision made by the party and by the country when the country votes so I am not going to put the black spot on anyone by saying who should or shouldn’t do the job.  He is a very talented guy, on this issue we disagree. I really think we would be making a big mistake as a country, I think we would be shrinking our economy, I think it would have an effect on people’s jobs and livelihoods that would be bad.  I actually think it would diminish our country because I want us to be Great Britain, I want us to be out there trying to help fix problems that affect us back at home, whether that is migration problems, whether it’s climate change, whether it’s fighting terrorism, whether it is trying to stop Iran getting a nuclear weapons – we are enhanced in our power and ability to get things done by being part of this organisation as we are by being part of NATO or other organisations.  So it is a profound disagreement but frankly in this debate I think we are finding that sometimes within a family you can find disagreements, with a community you can find disagreements and that’s why we’re having a referendum.  You’re going to settle this issue but I am not going to hold back in making the arguments that I feel very passionately about and I’m sure neither will Boris.  

KB: Does that work for you, Fiona?

FIONA: I don't think it quite answered the question.

DAVID CAMERON:  The question was do I think Boris should be the next Prime Minister and I’m saying I’m not going to …

KB: Would he be a good one?

DAVID CAMERON: I’ve said he has been a great Mayor of London, he has plenty of fuel left in the tank and I’ll let other people decide.  That’s as far as I’m going to go.  

KM: James Dexter, set up an electronics business after being made redundant 12 years ago, I hope everything is going well.  What is your question for the Prime Minister?

JAMES DEXTER: My question is do you regret the personal damage that your scaremongering campaign has done to your reputation and legacy? [Applause]

DAVID CAMERON: Well with respect, James, I just don’t agree.  I think there is a very positive case for staying in a reformed European Union, it’s about jobs, it’s about Britain’s strength and place in the world, it’s about keeping us safe but I do think there are real risks from leaving and I don’t want to wake up on June 24th …

JAMES: That’s scaremongering, Mr Cameron.

DAVID CAMERON:  Well I don’t accept it is scaremongering, sir.  I am genuinely worried about Britain leaving the single market, I gave the example of the car factory and we have got 150,000 people making cars in our country, it has grown by 60% over recent years.  Why would we want to cut ourselves off from the single market?  Let’s take financial services, it’s a really important part of our economy and because we’re in the single market if you establish a country in Britain, you can sell to all other 27 countries.  If we leave, almost by definition some of those jobs in some of those companies have to go to another European Union country.  That is going to cost us jobs, that is going to mean fewer people taking home a wage.  

JAMES: If we are manufacturing, why wouldn’t they just buy them?  Why would they need to be in a political union in order to buy something you wanted to buy?

DAVID CAMERON: You have to have a trade deal.  

JAMES: But we don’t have a trade deal with America, we use eBay, we use Amazon …

DAVID CAMERON:  Let’s take America, you are absolutely right we don’t have a trade deal with America, right.  When the French banned our beef because of the beef on the bone issue, we took them to court in Europe, we got the ban lifted and we sell our beef into Europe. Do you know how much beef we sell into America today?  Our brilliant farmers, some of the cleanest, best meat produced anywhere in the world – we sell no beef to America, we sell no lamb to America.  Trade deals are really important to make sure that our farmers, our manufacturers, our technicians, our scientists have jobs, have livelihoods.  

JAMES: Well why don’t we sell beef or lamb to America?

DAVID CAMERON:  Because they won’t take it because they are still maintaining the ban because of what happened 20 years ago and their farmers – and this is a really crucial point, sir – their farmers are lobbying Congress and saying don’t lift the ban because it’s bad for us and here’s my fear, this is not scaremongering, this is a genuine point, here’s my fear: we leave the single market, we say we’re going to do a trade deal with Europe like Canada has, seven years it took and still not completed.  What are European companies going to do during that time?  


JAMES: Sell us goods.  

DAVID CAMERON: Let me just make this point: if our car manufacturers are not going to have that privileged access to the single market, while we are negotiating the deal, surely the Renault’s and the Citroen’s and the Peugeot’s and the BMW’s are going to be arguing with their governments, well don’t give the British the access they used to have when they were in the organisation and paying some of the bills, don’t give them a better deal than we have ourselves.  So to me this is not about scaring anybody, I am genuinely worried about what is going to happen if we leave.

MAN: We are one of their largest markets, they are going to banging on Angela Merkel’s door saying we need to get a good deal with them because we need to keep selling.

DAVID CAMERON:  This is a really important point and actually you have hit a really important point.  Here are the figures and I think they speak for themselves.  44% of what we sell in terms of goods and services goes to other European Union countries, if you take the rest of the European Union countries 8% of what they sell comes to us.  Now you don’t have to be … So you can see the dynamics there, it’s 44% of what we sell, it is only 8% of what they sell, what’s the trade deficit?  You are absolutely right, sir, we have a trade deficit when it comes to goods, we buy more of theirs than they buy of ours.  When it comes to services and remember services are 80% of our economy, we have a massive surplus so my fear would be if we leave the single market and we don’t have that deal and we start a Canada style process, seven years of uncertainty, we end up with a situation where yes, we get some free trade in goods but we don’t get the free trade in services.  Canada is not getting the free trade in services and they have got the best deal that Europe has ever done.  Now this isn’t good enough for Britain, I want the best for Britain.  We are the fifth largest economy in the world.  

KB: We are going to have to bring in lots of other people if you don’t mind, Prime Minister, we do need to move on.  Victoria Crawford wants to make her point about her children particularly and the housing market, Victoria what’s your question?

VICTORIA CRAWFORD: Hello Mr Cameron.  My children and myself are planning to leave London because we’ve been priced out of the housing market also my kids can’t find entry level jobs partly because migrants with more experience are coming in and taking entry level jobs and I am making the emphasis on entry level.  What would you say to my children, their names are Jessica and Ewan and they are watching, what would you do to encourage them to stay in the EU?

DAVID CAMERON: Well I’d say to Jessica and Ewan that I think there will greater opportunities for jobs and actually for building houses if we stay in because we’ll have a fundamentally stronger economy because if we stay in the single market with all the opportunities that gives us, we can go on as we are at the moment, the economy growing, creating jobs, creating opportunities and if we leave I fear we will put those at risk but I totally accept that we need to do more as a country to make sure we improve our education system, to go on training apprentices – we did two million in the last parliament, we’ll try and do three million in this parliament – and we enable people to go on to university if they want to so that we create the educated and trained workforce that can do the jobs that our economy is creating. That is actually, we didn’t discuss that earlier, that is the flipside of immigration control, making sure we can do the jobs our economy is creating. If we leave I would worry for their opportunities because …

VICTORIA: They don’t have any at the moment to be fair.  My daughter wants to train to be a paediatric nurse, she cannot now commit to a university degree because a) she now has to pay tuition fees but also you are about to abolish the bursary so she can’t even do that without me supporting her and I’m a single parent.  I’m a mental health worker, I’m not a qualified mental health worker so I don’t earn that much money, their father lives in Spain so I would need to support my daughter through that but if you take those bursaries and make her pay for her tuition fees it is completely out of the question.  

DAVID CAMERON: What I would say to your daughter is what we are trying to do here is make sure we train more nurses.  Last year we turned away …

VICTORIA: So make it easier for them then.

DAVID CAMERON:  I know, I understand that but here’s the problem.  Because we had a bursary system last year we actually turned away 37,000 British people who wanted to train as nurses, two out of three people who wanted to do that we couldn’t pay for because of the bursary system.  Now we have moved over to  a loan system the people who are actually going to take on that training will get more money, yes they will have a student loan but there are jobs for them in the NHS and if we do that actually we’ll be less reliant on bringing in nurses from overseas.  There are good jobs in nursing and salaries for nursing at the end of that process.  

KB: We’ll have to leave that there, I’m so sorry.  Can I bring in Kim Dunstan who is a former police officer, 30 years’ service, Kim.

KIM DUNSTAN: Yes, you’ve said we will be less safe if we leave the EU, surely it is in every country’s interest to share intelligence and co-operate on crime and terrorism.  Are you really trying to tell us that Austria wouldn’t forewarn us of a bomb threat or Italy wouldn’t act on the intelligence of a terrorist plot heading for the UK if we vote for Brexit?

DAVID CAMERON: No, I’m not saying that, Kim, but I think you raise a really important point and I’ll be very direct about it.  If you had asked me ten years ago does Europe really have a lot to do with security and terrorism, I think I probably would have said no, it’s down to our brave police officers, it’s down to our security services and co-operation with America and others.  After six years of being Prime Minister I can honestly tell you that the co-operation we get through the European Union and the intelligence and the information does matter.  To answer you very directly, yes of course if we left I’m sure we’d find a way of trying to get back into the structures and the organisation and the information exchange that we are currently in but it would take us a lot of time, a lot of effort and right now we want to focus on …

KIM: But that’s in place now anyway, you just carry on as normal.  It’s in every country’s interest to protect its citizens, what country in their right mind would not want to co-operate with us?  I mean look at the European Arrest Warrant.

DAVID CAMERON: Let’s deal with that sir, that’s a really good point. The Leave campaign want to come out of the European Arrest Warrant and actually to be a member of the European Arrest Warrant, all the countries are full members of the European Union and just in case … the European Arrest Warrant has brought 1,100 rapists, murderers and other serious criminals back to Britain and here’s one example that is directly about public safety.  We all remember the terrible bombs in London in July 2005, the second set of bombers, one of them a man called Hussein Osman, left Britain, managed to make it to Italy and because of the European Arrest Warrant he was back here in days and is currently serving a 40 year jail sentence but before we had the European Arrest Warrant, sir, this could take years, sometimes decades and you’ll remember it, trying to get people back from the Costa del Crime and elsewhere, some of them stayed there for years and years and years because the extradition treaties didn’t work.  The European Arrest Warrant does work, it helps to keep us safe and it is part of the co-operation that we have.

KB: Okay, we are out of time, how quickly has that gone?

DAVID CAMERON: It has absolutely flown by.  Look, can I thank you all for coming and your questions tonight. I would just say to everybody that as we go home, we wake up in the morning and look our children and grandchildren in the eye and think who we’re responsible for through our pay packet, let us not roll a dice on their future.  Britain doesn’t succeed when we quit, we succeed when we get stuck in, we work to improve these organisations and we safeguard the prosperity and security of our great country.  To me that’s what it’s all about, but thank you very much.  [Applause]

KB: Tomorrow night it is the turn of the Leave campaign to make their case, Michael Gove will be here and be subject to the same examination as the Prime Minister, so that’s In or Out: Michael Gove, live tomorrow evening at eight o’clock, don’t miss it.